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Accessing all the Vancouver Bridges

Update notes: finished adding all the bridges, added a link to photos. I will try to format everything to be a bit nicer and/or make a copy at another location that allows for easienicer formatting.
As requested by raleighspritely in the other bridges thread, this post is intended to help generally newer riders figure out specifically how to get onto each bridge in each direction, where all most of the exit options go and any other weirdnesses each bridge may have.
I'll assume you know roughly where you are and roughly how to get to each bridge. Some are easy to find the entrances for (Burrard), some are weird (Cambie, southbound) and some have entrances a long way from where the cars access (Golden Ears) so if they're super weird I'll try and give you more specifics.
Photos from the day showing most of the bridges: https://imgur.com/a/RvTUs0V (missing: 2nd Narrows, KSB, Canada Line, Arthur Liang)
And now to talking about crossing bridges!
Granville - follow the instructions for Burrard or Cambie
If you insist on using the GSB (don't) SB access is easiest via Howe St and NB access at 5th & Granville
Burrard
Easiest to get onto IMO as the access is right at the ends of the bridge
Cambie
Going southbound on Cambie is super weird to get to unless you're already on Nelson St
Lion's Gate
North Bound:
South Bound:
Second Narrows/IronworkersThis is one of the weirdest/awkwardest, particularly at the north end
North Bound:
South Bound
Access is here basically across from Phibbs. Many ways to get to it, but you've gotta get to that spot to go south.
Exiting: takes you down through the trees, watch for the pair of switchbacks. You'll end up at the bottom of Skeena St.
Arthur Laing
I regard this as an "experts only" type bridge that I wouldn't recommend to anyone not comfortable with riding in fairly close proximity to cars. There's no separated lane and just a narrow shoulder. That said, I don't feel unsafe on this bridge for some reason, but that might just be from riding it a bunch and being used to riding next to cars. Anyways, onto how to get on/off:
Southbound: access is via the car ramp at where Marine & Granville all come together in a 6 lane clusterfuck that was meant to be the highway through Vancouver. Normally I access coming off NW Marine, onto the clusterfuck, pick up speed down the hill and (with a lot of shoulder checking) get across the right most lane onto the ramp. Go up the ramp and stick to the right.
Exiting: things get dicey/exciting. You'll be crossing roads at speed so be shoulder checking.
North Bound: you can either access off the paths off Airport Rd here or by riding north along Russ Baker Way and basically sticking right and following the signs to Vancouver.
Exiting: again a bit dicey with some potential lane crossing
Pitt River
This is one of the nicest crossings. All the recently built (or updated) bridges are really, really nice once you're on the deck (Pitt River, Port Mann, Golden Ears + Ironworkers post update).
The cycle/pedestrian lane is on the north side of the span and is nice and wide. Access on the west end requires crossing Belfast Ave/Fremont Connector that loops under the bridge. Since access is all for the one side crossing my instructions are written for West->East travel but basically just do them in reverse for East->West.
Coming from NW (Trabouley Poco Trail/Deboville Slough), you do a couple zigzags and hairpins and crossing Belfast St but you can see your target the whole time so this bridge is honestly one of the easiest to get onto.
Coming from the SW, you go under the bridge parallel to the Fremont Connector then see the access to your left. If you were to keep going on the path instead you'd eventually end up at Deboville Slough.
East end of the bridge drops you in Pitt Meadows. As you exit (eastbound) you can immediately do 180deg turn left to get onto the trails. Another left at the river to go south, north and you can make your way out to Pitt Lake on the trails. To access the trail parallel to, and on the south side of, Lougheed Highway take the left at the river then left again at Ferryslip Rd.
If you go straight Old Dewdney Trunk Rd is a pretty nice ride towards Maple Ridge.
Golden Ears
Alright, this one is possibly the most difficult unless you know exactly where to go, partly because they're a long way along the bridge from where cars access. The Southbound Access is at 113B & Airport Way (Maple Ridge/Pitt Meadows). The northbound access is at 100A Ave & 201St (Langley)
Southbound
Northbound
Access is at 100A Ave & 201St. You go up the multilevel round ramp. Your exit will basically be the aforementioned 113B roundabout, you can go straight through it to get onto Maple Meadows Way towards the mall, right will change into 203St as it turns north or go left and west towards the airport.
Canada Line Bridge
This one is on the side of the Canada Line bridge section between Marine & Cambie Station & Bridgeport Station.
North connection is on Kent Ave S @ Cambie. However you have to go east from Kent Ave N & Cambie to turn south to get onto Kent Ave S and access the ramp. If you're coming down Cambie, hang a right on Kent Ave N.
South Connection is at River Road and Van Horne Way.
If you're going North then east, my recommendation is take Cambie north, then cut east at 59th. Kent Ave N between Cambie and Ontario sucks butt and cars are frequently impatient assholes on that section (it's also rough, needs a repave and has a lot of rail tracks).
If you're going north then west you can go west on Kent Ave N and then right on Heather before climbing a bit and taking the westbound route of your choice.
If you're just going north then Cambie, Ontario & Heather are all pretty good choices with Ontario & Heather being quieter. I can't remember how all of Heather's crossings are since I haven't ridden it past 59th in years.
If you're going South, you can go:
Formatting is becoming a pain because this is getting long. Sorry!
Port Mann
This one is like the Pitt River Bridge in that the pedestrian/bike path is only on the north/east side of the bridge deck.
West access is where the Port Mann passes over United Boulevard and where Unite intersects the Mary Hill Bypass offramps. If you're coming off the bridge you can go south/west on United and eventually work your way over towards Braid Station. If you go east on the Mary Hill Bypass you can connect to the Traboulay PoCo trail, Argue St and work your way up to the Pitt River bridge. There's also a mess of trails in and around Colony Farm but you're on your own for that :)
East access is a ways up a pretty decent hill at 152st/112Ave by Dogwood Campgrounds. If you're going north/west, the signage is good. Just don't take the overpass over the highway. How you get to 152/112...up to you. It's a big grid!
Alex Fraser
Ok, this one is another bit of a mess in terms of access. I don't think this one is technically unidirectional like the others, but I recommend riding the same way as cars are travelling and this guide will be based on that. Careful on the deck, there's a bunch of spots where you have to dodge the bases of signs and other spots where the path just shifts left/right.
Southbound:
You've made it over the Queensborough or come in from Richmond. You've made it onto the Annacis Channel bridge and are approaching Annacis island. You'll see a bus-stop on an island, you want to get there (if not busy, drop the curb & cut across, otherwise there's a crosswalk to use), take the crosswalk that goes parallel to the bus-only section of intersection, onto the sidewalk on the far-far side and then left and you'll see the path onto the bridge. You'll get dropped off with the choice of left or right. Left takes you towards HWY17, River Rd which are the two options for getting to the ferry (take River, it's quieter and only marginally slower). Right will take you under the bridge, and after you go past Planet Ice you can go left towards River Rd east, right-then-right to get onto Nordel north/east or just right for the Delta-South Surrey Greenway.
If you're trying to get to South Surrey, go as if you're going up Nordel, get over the overpass, then take the trail that cuts back to the right. This is the North Delta Greenway and is superior to the DSS Greenway in basically every way including being WAY smoother (I ride it on my carbon road bike on 25mm tires).
North Bound:
Starting from Planet Ice, take the path up onto the bridge, ride across, question why you're out here and didn't just take the Massey Shuttle to get home faster...
At the north end of the bridge, you'll end up next to the Annacis exit ramp. At the end of it, you want to take the small crosswalk onto the island with the bus stop, across Cliveden ave onto the island on the far side, then across another little crosswalk onto the path and hang a left. Stick to this path, you'll go back over the Annacis Channel and find yourself at a zig-zagging ramp. At the bottom of that you have the options of:hard right: path through to Hamilton Highway Park where you can take an overpass towards River Rd
left then right: onto Boundary Rd then Dyke rd, you can use this to get over towards Westminster Highway via Fraserwood Way.
left then left (generally recommended): take Boundary Rd north. At Boundary & Boyd you can go right to the Queensborough or left onto Westminster Hwy which you can use to get all the way to Richmond or to connect to River Rd
Queensborough
because New West is at a 45deg angle I'll be using "up/down and top/bottom" for this bridge because it's effectively a hill. Top is 22nd St station end, bottom is Queensborough Landing.
The top connection is just below 22nd St Station. If you're coming from 22nd St station just take the bridge down, it'll drop you on Boyd St. Left takes you to QB Landing. Right takes you to...not a lot. It's narrow, you'll probably have to slow down a bunch as you pass people.
If you're coming from Market Crossing area or New West (both via Marine Dr) I recommend taking the "up" side of the bridge down because it has about 1% of the traffic the "down" side does.
To get to it, the access is the ramp on the "cars up" side of the bridge. Otherwise, you can use the ramp on the "cars down" side to connect to the "down" side.
Either way as you're going down, watch for the hairpins at the bottom!
If you're going up and heading to downtown New West take the "up" side. Head east along Marine/Stewardson. You can eventually head right down a side street to get to S&O because that's why you're in New West right? If not, you're at S&O now. Best way to get through to the rest of downtown is via the Quay.
If you're going up and heading to anywhere else take the "down" side and go all the way to 22nd St Station. Right and past the station connects to 7th Ave across New West. Left you can use to get onto both Marine Dr or Marine Way to go west to Market Crossing, Big Bend, Glenlyon, River District. Straight turns into the BC Parkway and travels under the skytrain past Edmonds, Royal Oak, Metrotown stations.
Knight St
Recommendation: if you can, keep going west and take the Canada Line Bridge. This bridge was NOT intended for cyclists at all as you're about to learn and this section may get a little rant-y.
Northbound:
Southbound (I haven't gone SB on this bridge in a long time)
Access is via the onramp at Inverness & Marine. If crossing SB on Inverness watch for cars not understanding how stoplights work and driving into the intersection.
Take the on-ramp, hop onto the sidewalk.
First exit is Mitchell Island, get across the island. Get back onto the sidewalk.
Second exit is Bridgeport and provided you take that off-ramp you'll end on a sidewalk on Bridgeport pointed west. First intersection will be Sweden Way, turn left for IKEA, right takes you up to Vulcan Way which can be used to connect to River, No5 & No6 Rds.
Opinion: the KSB needs a cycling infrastructure update more than the GSB. The GSB is bad, but at least Cambie and Burrard are basically adjacent.
Oak St Bridge
Disclaimer: I have ridden across this bridge exactly once, only north bound on the southbound side. I will provide links to where I think the access to the NB path is, but I can't guarantee it.
This accesses I used for this bridge are near enough to the Canada Line Bridge so I would recommend just using that. Also the access Oak St Bridge are all off bigger roads so just awkward to get to.
The north end of the SB path is a crosswalk between 71st Ave & 72nd Ave on Oak St. ( https://www.google.com/maps/place/49%C2%B012'22.1%22N+123%C2%B007'49.4%22W/@49.2061485,-123.1325803,765m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d49.2061446!4d-123.1303973 )
The south end of the SB path is at the southeast end of the Shanghai Wonderful restaurant parking lot. https://www.google.com/maps/place/49%C2%B011'30.5%22N+123%C2%B007'10.7%22W/@49.1918179,-123.1201938,191m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d49.1918174!4d-123.1196477
I *think* the south end of the NB path is here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/49%C2%B011'25.0%22N+123%C2%B006'55.9%22W/@49.1902744,-123.1163805,382m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d49.1902728!4d-123.1155145
I don't know how to get there.
I think the north end of the NB path is effectively the intersection of SW Marine @ Shaughnessy St. https://www.google.com/maps/place/49%C2%B012'17.7%22N+123%C2%B007'45.5%22W/@49.2047843,-123.1293076,104m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d49.2049204!4d-123.1293171
Once you're on the bridge it's just ride along until you're at the other end. The surface is weird concrete sections that have all gone a bit convex so it's a weird kinda bumpy ride.
rest to be continued later including: Pitt River, Golden Ears, Port Mann, Alex Fraser, Queensborough, Knight St, Canada Line, Oak St and Arthur Laing. If you need to go between New West and Surrey I recommend just taking the Skytrain.
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State of the Week 05: Connecticut (Updated)

Overview

Name and Origin: "Connecticut"; named for a French corruption to the Native American word "quinetucket", meaning "beside the long, tidal river".
Flag: Flag of the State of Connecticut
Map: Connecticut County Map
Nickname(s): The Constitution State, The Nutmeg State, The Provisions State, The Land of Steady Habits
Demonym(s): Connecticuter, Connecticutian, Nutmegger
Abbreviation: CT
Motto: "Qui transtulit sustinet"; Latin for "He who transplanted still sustains"
Prior to Statehood: Connecticut Colony
Admission to the Union: January 9, 1788 (5th)
Population: 3,590,886 (29th)
Population Density: 739/sq mi (4th)
Electoral College Votes: 7
Area: 5,543 sq mi (48th)
Countries Similar in Size: Montenegro (5,333 sq mi), Bahamas (5,383 sq mi), East Timor (5,743 sq mi)
State Capital: Hartford
Largest Cities (by population in latest census)
Rank City County/Counties Population
1 Bridgeport Fairfield County 144,229
2 New Haven New Haven County 129,779
3 Hartford Hartford County 124,775
4 Stamford Fairfield County 122,643
5 Waterbury New Haven County 110,366
Borders: Massachusetts [N], Rhode Island [E], Long Island Sound [S], New York [W]
Subreddit: /Connecticut

Government

Governor: Dannel Malloy (D)
Lieutenant Governor: Nancy Wyman (D)
U.S. Senators: Richard Blumenthal (D), Chris Murphy (D)
U.S. House Delegation: 5 Representatives | 5 Democrat
Connecticut Legislature
Senators: 36 | 20 Democrat, 15 Republican, 1 Working Families
President Pro Tempore of the Senate: Martin Looney (D)
Representatives: 151 | 87 Democrat, 64 Republican
Speaker of the House: Brendan Sharkey (D)

Presidential Election Results (since 1980, most recent first)

Year Democratic Nominee Republican Nominee State Winner (%) Election Winner Notes
2016 Hillary Clinton Donald Trump Hillary Clinton (54.5%) Donald Trump Libertarian Party Candidate Gary Johnson won 3% of the Connecticut vote.
2012 Barack Obama Mitt Romney Barack Obama (58.06%) Barack Obama
2008 Barack Obama John McCain Barack Obama (60.59%) Barack Obama
2004 John Kerry George W. Bush John Kerry (54.31%) George W. Bush
2000 Al Gore George W. Bush Al Gore (55.9%) George W. Bush Green Party Candidate Ralph Nader won 4.42% of the Connecticut vote.
1996 Bill Clinton Bob Dole Bill Clinton (52.83%) Bill Clinton Reform Party Candidate Ross Perot won 10.02% of the Connecticut vote.
1992 Bill Clinton George H.W. Bush Bill Clinton (42.2%) Bill Clinton Independent Candidate Ross Perot won 21.6% of the Connecticut vote.
1988 Michael Dukakis George H.W. Bush George H.W. Bush (52.0%) George H.W. Bush Last time Connecticut votes Republican .
1984 Walter Mondale Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan (60.7%) Ronald Reagan
1980 Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan (48.2%) Ronald Reagan Independent Candidate John B. Anderson won 12.2% of the Connecticut vote.

Demographics

Racial Composition:
  • 77.5% non-Hispanic White
  • 9.4% Hispanic/Latino (of any race)
  • 9.1% Black
  • 2.4% Asian
  • 2.2% Mixed race, multicultural or biracial
  • 0.3% Native American, Native Alaskan, Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander
Ancestry Groups
  • Italian (18.6%)
  • Irish (16.6%)
  • English (10.3%)
  • German (9.8%)
  • Polish (8.3%)
Second Languages – Most Non-English Languages Spoken at Home
  • Spanish or Spanish Creole (8.4%)
  • Italian (1.6%)
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Religion
  • Christian (70%)
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  • Unaffiliated, Atheist or Refused to Answer (23%)
  • Jewish, Buddhist, Islamic, Hindu, or Other (7%)

Education

Colleges and Universities in Connecticut include these five largest four-year schools:
School City Enrollment NCAA or Other (Nickname)
University of Connecticut Storrs ~28,335 Division I (Huskies)
Post University Waterbury ~15,098 Division II (Eagles)
Central Connecticut State University New Britain ~14,279 Division I (Blue Devils)
Yale University New Haven ~13,335 Division I (Bulldogs)
Southern Connecticut State University New Haven ~12,696 Division II (Owls)

Economy

State Minimum Wage: $9.60/hour
Minimum Tipped Wage: $6.38/hour
Unemployment Rate: 6.3%
Largest Employers
Employer Industry Location Employees in State
United Technologies Conglomerate Farmington (HQ) ~26,400+
Stop & Shop Supermarket Various ~14,049+
The Hartford Investment, Insurance Hartford (HQ) ~12,100+
Yale University Education, Research New Haven (HQ) ~11,500+
Foxwoods Resort Casino Gambling, Tourism Mashantucket (HQ) ~11,500+

Sports

Connecticut is currently not home to any Big Five professional sports teams.

Fun Facts

  1. The USS Nautilus - the world's first nuclear powered submarine was built in Groton in 1954.
  2. Connecticut, along with Rhode Island, were the only two states to never ratify the 18th Amendment (Prohibition).
  3. The Scoville Memorial Library is the United States oldest public library. The library collection began in 1771, when Richard Smith, owner of a local blast furnace, used community contributions to buy 200 books in London.
  4. Connecticut is home to the oldest U.S. newspaper still being published: The Hartford Courant, established in 1764.
  5. Connecticut is home to the first hamburger (1895), Polaroid camera (1934), helicopter (1939), and color television (1948).
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[Table] IamA pizza delivery driver at the busiest Papa John's in Chicago, AMA!

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Date: 2014-05-09
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Questions Answers
1.Best Tip 2.Best Bong Tip 3.Anyone Famous? 4.Most Made One Day 5.Car Story 6.Weather Story 7.Sex Story 8.Something Doesn't fell Right Story 9.Robbed or Violence?? Best tip was $40 overall but most memorable was a drunk girl who thought she was handing me three singles and actually handed me a 20 and 2 singles.
Best bong tip was this killer hybrid of Blue Dream and Golden Goat some guy had. We ripped it for a couple minutes and made small talk before I realized I would probably be too high to drive.
Nobody famous yet, but one of the guys at my store has delivered to John Cusack.
Most I made in one day was a Saturday night with shit weather and only 2 drivers... $266 just in tips in 8.5 hours of driving.
Car story? Well, both my mirrors are gone, there are bullet holes in the front of my hood, all doors are dented in except the driver's side, and I have lots of fun knocking noises and fluid leaks. I haven't actually ever been in an accident with it, but only an idiot buys a nice car to deliver in. I also mostly deliver by bike now.
Winter in Chicago was the worst ever. I completely ate shit on the ice with some dude's pizza in hand and he saw me eat shit right in front of his quaint little townhouse. Did he freak out and see if I was ok? No. He called the store and bitched that I had bounced his toppings around.
Boy do I wish this job was like it's portrayed in porn. Unfortunately the only nudity I get to see is penis and lots of it. Most of it intentionally on their behalf. Lots of exhibitionists use us as their victims. I think my favorite was the guy who masturbated at me when he opened his door and I just stared at him awkwardly for a good 90 seconds before he slammed the door shut.
Every time I go to the projects lol.
When I worked at Pizza Hut a while back, I got attacked by a drunk redneck with a car battery. Since he assumed that was an acceptable weapon, I used the dismantled IKEA bookcase in my backseat as my response.
I completely ate shit on the ice with some dude's pizza in hand and he saw me eat shit right in front of his quaint little townhouse. Did he freak out and see if I was ok? No. He called the store and bitched that I had bounced his toppings around. As a former driver, I 100% believe this. Those feels...
So did the masturbator pay for his pizza? I assume that gets a note in the Papa John's delivery database for future deliveries. Ha! No, he did not. He was blacklisted from our system and the manager that night filed a police report to have him arrested. He may not have paid for it but for the amount of time we just stood there staring so awkwardly at each other, it was worth it.
there are bullet holes in the front of my hood. Please, tell me more. There was a drive-by shooting in the alley behind the restaurant I live next to a couple years back and my poor Oxana was in the line of fire!
ITT/tl;dr: some pizza guy does drugs and everyone gives him upvotes. he's probably just appealing to the shallow hivemind of reddit to become popular. well its not working against me engages downvote Nice. Well, pizza delivery does attract a lot of deadbeats and junkies, but I am not. Started in college and it has stuck with me into my teaching years, seeing as that's not always enough excitement or money to keep my Internet fast and fridge full.
Worth it for who? Worth it for me to see this exhibitionist pervert finally get scared as the 6 foot tall pizza guy looked down at him.
Scared...or aroused? I couldn't tell, his package was too small.
When you want pizza, do you get Papa John's or some other kind? Do you get a discount for working there? We get half off everything as an employee discount, but Papa John's is fucking disgusting to me now. That and I'm on a diet. And, well, as any Chicagoan knows, it's no excuse for real pizza. When I want pizza now I either make my own deep dish or order from a local joint down here in Bridgeport. I shouldn't lie though, Domino's is my guilty pleasure when I'm high as shit.
Funny enough, we often order pizza to Papa John's and vice versa. Customers in the store always get a kick out of seeing some Lou Malnati's driver show up in our lobby looking confused as all hell.
Why is a stoned pizza delivery guy awake at 6:30??? Well, I did go to bed eventually! Truth is, I'm not stoned, just working on other stuff. Pizza delivery isn't my only job, thank god. Not to mention I get off work at 2 AM on most nights and don't get home til around 3 AM or later.
Tonight and Saturday night are different, however. I smoke John Lennon amounts of marijuana on the weekends.
Do you actually remember the addresses that don't tip? If you do, is there anything you do differently because you know? I dunno, like... place a pube under a slice of pepperoni? Yes, and I keep a little black book of all of them. If you don't tip once, consider yourself warned. If you become a repeat offender, you get jotted down in my book. Name, address, phone number, perceived personality traits, everything. Believe it or not, as bad as this sounds, I keep track of my customers' drug usage so if they don't tip I can call in the boys in blue. I have once in my career had an entire party of high schoolers arrested for underage drinking because they wasted almost an hour of my time and didn't tip.
Basically, don't fuck with the pizza guy. We won't fuck with your food, don't worry, that's illegal and just wrong. But we are creative and won't stop at anything to either scare the stiffers straight or make their experience a living hell. And we share these lists between different chains, so you're really not safe anywhere anymore once you don't tip a few times. Just a heads up.
Wow they dont give you a 2 dollar tip and you potentially ruin somebodies life. Hope you feel good about yourself there. Not after one time, no. But repeat offenders? Absolutely. We depend on this money to pay our bills. It's not like every pizza guy goes out boozing every weekend like most of the customers we serve. I scrape by with a constant bank account under $50. So yeah, every $2 counts, man. If you are constantly costing me money to deliver your food, you're gonna get messed with.
Now, we would never mess with someone's actual food. It's illegal. And I trust other people not to do that to me. But if I didn't tip my waiters and drivers I would expect to be disrespected, as not tipping is.
Friend in college worked PJ's in Detroit. So you know the shitty nasty weather in winter she had to deal with. She'd pull up between deliveries by the door to grab more pie, and leave the car running. One day between her 60 seconds inside, someone stole her car. (wrecked it later). Do you ever do this, as far as leaving your running car for a bit in the winter? Here's what I was told from day one and I tell rookies these days: under no circumstances do you EVER leave your car running, no matter what the weather. Now, leaving it unlocked vs. locked is your call but especially in a big city like Detroit or Chicago, it's a big no-no. Not to mention most big chains will not cover your ass if your car is stolen when you left it running. Even though our store is in an affluent area, we've had drivers' cars get broken into and bikes stolen in under 30 seconds right in front of the store.
Thanks for the reply!! We did all kind of laugh at her for doing it. I think she's now the district manager somewhere for PJ, but never made that same mistake again. Hate to show my age, but that was 10+ years ago. Hopefully she changed the training. Also, thanks for the great pizzas! No prob! It happens to the best of 'em, unfortunately. She should at least be glad it was just her car and not her, too!
I know this is late but I'm curious. In my 15 years delivery driving for various types of food, I never once delivered to a person at a hotel with clothes on. Does that happen frequently to you? Yes! The most recent was the masturbator mentioned above, but I have had the same experience. Hotels just do not fare well for delivery drivers usually. I've been attacked with a car battery in the parking lot of one and seen more penis than Lisa Lampanelli at hotels.
Thanks again. One final question before work... Most places now have a delivery fee. Do you as a driver get that, or some? Or are we still expected to tip? This has been one of my pet peeves for some time. Thank god PJs finally put something on their boxes and receipts saying that no, the drivers do not see that delivery charge. Yes, tipping is still expected, and this whole delivery charge thing is a real robbery from the drivers because it convinces people that tipping is unnecessary.
I know this isn't all pizza delivery places, but hoping you know what goes on in general now. The real scam is that large chains pay us rarely more than $5-$6 an hour, and assuming we take 3 deliveries an hour, that means that not only is PJs using that $2.75 delivery fee to upcharge the customer, but they're using it to pay our wages and profit on us being there. 'Merica.
Unfortunately that charge is why is topped getting delivery from PJs. I'll jsut go pick it up myself. I knew that wasn't tip and I have a hard time paying $5 for delivery on an $11 pizza. I agree. The delivery charge is just a way for chains to never have to pay their driver staff and let the customers do it instead. I wish more people on the outside stood up to it like you.
Have you ever been invited to a spur-of-the-moment sexual liason? No, but I do have a story that's close.
Some drunk assholes at a bachelorette party right on the lake decided to order pizza at the same time they had ordered a pizza delivery-themed stripper. When I knocked on the door, I was pulled into a dark room full of screaming women and thought that either I was a dead man or I had finally spontaneously combusted and received my 72 virgins. Turns out they thought I was the stripper and we all had a good laugh. I kind of wish I was after they turned all the lights on; there was a room full of 40 or so drunk 20-somethings ready for action. That was a tip enough :D.
My friend is pizza delivery guy at aurellios and he recently delivered it to some of the members of the Chicago Bulls. Have you ever delivered to someone famous? I wish, but I'm not sure there are too many famous folks in our delivery zone. One of our drivers has delivered to John Cusack, but that's pretty much the extent of our fame!
What's the weirdest thing you have come across while delivering pizza? I used to deliver in a heavily Chinese area and once, when looking for a customer who wouldn't answer their door or phone, witnessed a pig being chloroformed and sliced open illegally in their backyard. I can only hope that pig didn't become the 'orange chicken' I had for dinner.
At my current store there was this crackhead guy one time that ran out of the gangway next to us holding a bent-up bike tire in the air and screaming "The pigeons stole my fucking toothpaste! I can't wash me shins!" Homeless people are quite entertaining in Chicago.
Could care less about the Chinese pig thing, but that homeless person's gibberish is classic. Wow. I'd have wanted to actually help him/her get some toothpaste, because everyone deserves to be able to wash their shins. Yeah the first one just really weirded me out. I don't do well with blood :P. With that homeless guy, I wasn't sure whether I should run away or actually give him change or a sandwich for his creativity.
Do you deliver to dark, eerie looking homes in deep south Texas? I did this kind of work as a teen - you are so right about it teaching you about humanity. I used to deliver to ghettos and get tips but in the posher neighborhoods - forget it lol. Lol no, not thus far. I totally agree, though. Rich people are the worst tippers and ghetto deliveries either don't tip or rob you!
Do you work at the one off of Lincoln?!?! Cause if so, I MIGHT HAVE SEEN YOUR FACE BEFORE! If not, sorry for shouting. Well there are a couple off of Lincoln. If you're thinking the one off Irving Park, close but no cigar ;). I work at the one off Diversey.
I'm gonna guess a street called diversity is in a shitty area... Lol I get asked this a lot actually. The street is Diversey Ave, not Diversity. It's named after some 19th century beer brewer, much like Lill Avenue to the south.
Do you guys get part of the delivery charge of should I still tip you? We don't see it, bottom line. PJs gives us $0.75 per run, but the government even says it takes about $0.50 per mile to keep a car going between long term repairs and fuel. So yes, tips are a must and a necessary evil, the way I see it. Tip the pizza guy, please!
You deliver to Lakeview? I'm gonna need some pizza later this afternoon. Depends on what part of Lakeview, but that's most likely the store at 3927 Lincoln. 773-525-7272.
Are you still doing this? Okay, here I go... Papa John's offers a lot of management opportunities (in my personal experience here in Florida) do you see yourself climbing the ladder or is this just a thing that leads to the next thing for you? Yes, they do, and I have been up the ladder and voluntarily climbed back down... This is just a side gig for me now, something to do at night as I teach music and whatnot during the day. To be honest, I make about twice as much money at this store delivering than I would managing.
My boyfriend ordered and he went to the store and he doesn't have any cash so can you leave the pizza and come back for the money later or go to the store and meet him? Yeah, this happens more often than you might think. He can pays with a card or come back with cash. We can't sell orders that have been sitting out for more than 2 hours under the heat lamps, though. That's just gross and by that point the drivers are staring at it sitting there like a pack of hungry wolves.
I always order around $25 worth of pizza and usually always tip $5. Is this tip acceptable? We live less than 2 minutes from the local Pizza Hut we order from and I am lazy. You are awesome, my friend. A $5 tip is excellent. The general rule of thumb, since a lot of chains don't have a minimum order for delivery, is that you tip $3 or 15%, whichever is greater. A lot of people think $1 is still a tip. This is not 1988.
Also, even if it is out of your control, do you feel if a pizza takes longer than 30 minutes it is rude to not tip? Especially if the online timer said it would be there at a certain time? Also, the delivery time has nothing to do with the drivers. This is a common misconception. While we try to be as accurate as possible with delivery time quotas, we have to keep them low to keep corporate happy. If you live in a big city or order during a busy time (dinner rush or late-night), expect it to be different. A lot of times drivers are held up by surprise large orders of 10 or more pizzas or the very common drunk customer that fell asleep and won't answer their phone. We do try to get it there as soon as possible. That being said, I make it a point to apologize for any pizza that took more than 45 minutes whether it was my fault or not.
Cool, thanks. Like I said, I always tip anyways, I know you guys live on tips. You pay my bills and I am eternally grateful. People like you always get your orders as fast as possible and bumped up in line.
What's your take on the black population of Chicago not tipping? Well, we deliver to Lincoln Park, which is mostly white, but there are some black folks in our area (mostly middle class but some over in the projects on the river at Diversey). We all hate to admit it but anyone who has ever worked for tips as a waitewaitress or delivery drivers know the stereotype that black people don't tip. Well, it's true. About 90% of the time. Yes, for some people it does have an impact on their service time and quality. Not sure how or when this will ever change, sorry to say.
It's just one of those things that everyone knows and acknowledges (even the black drivers) but is kind of afraid to talk about for obvious reasons. It's not just black people, either. Most customers from other countries can be expected to not tip as well.
How do yall make the garlic sauce, and can you buy them in bulk? That garlic sauce is now thoroughly disgusting to me, I hate to admit. It's made at some corporate factory like every other ingredient in every chain's pizza. I've never done it personally, but I know some of our management will buy cases of the stuff for customers who are loyal and beg for it. We get 200 of those cups for $12 and then charge $0.75 a cup to the customer. But because they're so cheap, the employees usually take a lot of them home to make garlic mashed potatoes and other stoner concoctions with at home.
Wouldnt putting actual minced garlic in their potatoes make a better garlic mashed potato? Yes, but you have to try it at least once!
If you had to choose between the brain of a monkey with the body of a human, or the brain of a human with the body of a monkey, what would you choose? Brain of a human with the body of a monkey, for sure. Maybe it would help the other monkeys learn our ways better if it was coming from one of their own.
Did anyone ever answer the door and was just plain rude the whole time? Like for example, you open the door and they scream or sneer at you for no reason? It's interesting. A lot of people over the phone will be rude and nasty, but when a big pizza man comes to their door they get scared straight and put on a smile.
Have any lonely housewives ever wanted to have sex with you? None of them have ever directly told me, but I can remember one woman way back when who would always request me to take her pizza to her and come to the door in a low-cut bathrobe or tank top with no bra on. To be honest, I think she got a rise out of showing herself off as much as all the dick flashers I have encountered.
I work at 300 N LaSalle. Could you hook me up with a free za? Not in our area, sorry. That'd be the River North store. I can tell you, though, it's damned easy to get a free pizza from us. The management will always believe you if you call and say your pizza was wrong. They have to give you a free large.
How much do you receive in compensation for the use of your vehicle, in $ per mile (or cents per mile). If you don't know that, what is your per delivery reimbursement and what does your store base that number off of in terms of average distance driven per delivery? We don't get paid by mile, but we do get $0.75 per delivery. Our deliveries average about 2 miles round trip, and my car gets about 18 MPG in the city, so each run costs me roughly $0.50 in gas. So after our hourly wages and an average of 3 deliveries an hour, I make about $6.25 an hour plus tips.
Are you positive on that miles per delivery average or are you just guessing? Do you know what your franchise bases the compensation on? I could make more comments about the last sentence, but will hold back for now. Yes, the exact average is something like 2.03 miles. So it's a rough estimate of what I'm making per hour. Considering our average tips are above $4 however, we make a lot more than $6.25 an hour.
Yeah, that whole situation is a lot more to get into. Basically, choose your friends wisely.
I usually always tip my delivery guy. One time though I miscalculated and didn't have enough cash. I made it up to him by giving him 10 dollars the next time. :) Also happens a lot. It's fine, as long as it's made up for. I referenced our 'shit list' in another post, and as I put there, you're not gonna get messed with over forgetting to tip once. We know it happens :).
What's your favorite pizza toppings? Personally, I love all things spicy. 90% of the pizza I order is deep dish, and when I get that, I always get pepperoni, hot Italian sausage, and hot giardiniera. When I get regular crust from Domino's or something, though, it's always pineapple, bacon, Canadian bacon, red peppers, and BBQ sauce instead of pizza sauce.
I love Papa Johns. Since we got a store in my area a couple years ago, I've ordered a few pizzas a month from there. Always order online by CC, and always add a $7-$10 tip. My pizza has never taken longer than 30 minutes to get here, so my question is more out of curiousity, but I've always wondered- if you had two deliveries, one where they already tipped on the card and one where they hadn't, who would you deliver to first? A lot of Chicagoans do, too! I love the pre-pay tip feature we have online, as well. The way drivers figure it is we take whoever tips the highest percentage first, which is way against company policy but is a pretty strict code of conduct in our world. Unless one or more of the orders is late; I wouldn't make someone wait an extra 15 minutes if they had actually ordered long before the other order(s). But you high tippers are awesome and appreciated and people probably recognize your name and give you extra peppers :).
I drive for Pizza Hut so I know most of your feels. For some reason I average like 2.50 tip per delivery and everyone else manages to get 3/4. So my question: average tip? And what "script" do you use when at their door? Yeah that's the problem I had when I was at Pizza Hut, too. My average now is over $5. The good thing about Papa John's, though, is that they have an option on online orders to pre-pay a tip. Just let that sink in and think about how messed up our system of tipping and paying sub-minimum wages is here in the states..
Anyway, customers like it when you are smiling and make it known that you went out of your way for them. When I'm taking orders in-store, I often take my time inputting the order in the computer and tell them I'm going through all of our coupons and deals to make sure they're getting the best discount. Of course I already know which one to give them, but it makes them feel special. If they ordered extra sauce or sides, let them know you double checked for them and take care to let them know what box they are in, etc. Comment on their home and a painting you like, or that it smells nice, you know, all bullshit but something to make them feel pretty.
The world of tips can be quite evil, but the best way to get tips is to manipulate the customer into thinking you care about them. In fact, this is key in all retail. Sounds fucked up but it'll keep you afloat. That, and in this world of pizza delivery, take as many doubles/triple/quads as you can. I'm not sure how busy you guys are, but I rarely take single runs out at once now. Make sure you know your area well and management will catch on to the fact you know your shit.
Where do you work around? South of Fullerton? South down Austin? Delivery area is from North to Belmont, river to lake. Our store is at Clark/Diversey/Broadway.
Do you guys not collect those complimentary cards on deliveries? I got one a year ago and have just been re-using it since and paying the $5 and change "delivery charge". Well, we're supposed to, but the management or whoever took your order usually doesn't remember to let the driver know to collect the card when they're headed out. It's a huge oversight problem with this company, but hey, who can argue with $5 large pizzas?
Fun fact: I have like 80 of those things in my car from over time that I let friends use to order Papa John's.
The answer is no one can argue $5 large pizzas, what is your favorite specialty pizza? I actually liked the double cheeseburger pizza we had a couple months back... it sounds weird but it was strangely delicious. The one we've got out right now, sweet chili chicken, is thoroughly disgusting.
But my staple has always been Hawaiian, the plain 'ol pineapple, ham, bacon, and BBQ sauce.
Am I an asshole if I tip with quarters? I once gave a guy 6 worth of quarters. He just laughed and said bye. Ha! Not at all. We get to change that out at the end of the night. I get rid of all my singles usually and take the stores bigger bills. Pizza shops thrive on dollar bills and quarters like a casino.
How old are you 2. do you carry a gun for protection? 26.
No, I would if I could, but most pizza places don't let you carry more than maybe a knife. I haven't ever felt the need to have one at this store.
How much money per hour would you need before you considered being an independent driver (you don't work for the company; you're a contractor)? I'd have to think about that, but at least double the $5.50/hour I see right now. And they'd have to stop charging that ridiculous 'delivery fee.'
I don't understand; they charge you as the driver a delivery fee? I thought delivery fees mostly go into the driver's pocket. Nope, they charge the customer the delivery fee that then pays our wages so they don't have to.
I work for a family owned pizza shop and the two dollar delivery fee comes out of the register and goes directly in the drivers pocket. That's awesome! What do you guys get per hour?
Would you be happy with a delivery fee that you kept 100% of? Yes, because it would make up for all the customers who don't tip. $2.75 is our delivery fee, and it would make our jobs a lot easier to do if we just saw all of that. At the same time, it would change the game of delivery. We literally only care about tips and it's become kind of a fun game trying to get them over the years.
Have you ever been asked to star in a porn film while delivering pizza? No, but I wish! I know my 13-year-old self dreamed of being a pizza guy at one point..
I did some calculations for a delivery place once and found that tips averaged 18.5%. I think an independent delivery service that simply charged 20% delivery charge [no tips allowed] and passed it almost completely to the drivers might work well for everyone; do you agree? Definitely. Actually, there are a couple companies in Chicago I know of that are doing this now. My favorite is called WeDeliver. Hours are picked by the drivers and they choose the runs they want to take on a smartphone app during business hours from 7 AM to 10 PM. They get paid a commission off of each delivery and can make pretty good money actually.
Ever been offered sexual acts by those who don't have the money for the pizza? Not yet. And, seeing as I need the money more, I'm glad!
He's got over negative 8000 karma, of course he's a douche. Keep him going so we can get him OVER 9000.
Why the fuck would someone eat at Papa Johns in CHICAGO !!! There are so many Pizza places that are non chain that are a thousand times better. Thank you a thousand times over for this. I personally am a complete pizza snob to the point where I can hardly eat out for pizza anymore because I make my own deep dish at home! I never liked Papa John's much but after eating it daily for so long I really loathe the stuff. Yes, even the garlic sauce.
From a former pizza delivery driver to another delivery driver: keep on keeping on. It is a noble labor we provide. Thanks, brother. We do our best!
As a delivery driver, how do you feel about the counter person (individual who answers all the calls and such) Often times when we are slow or really backed up, I am also that counter person. They are pretty up to speed on what info the drivers need. If we have really large tips on massive orders, some of us will split it with the cooks and phone operators.
R u gay. No.
Proof? Don't have proof of the store I work at but I can get it today... posting an Imgur link now for proof I do actually work at PJs
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